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Lion The Demon Witch


I. Introduction

Lion would be the best disabler in game if you pair him with rhasta. But there are so much problem with Lion user such as Useless Impale, wrong hex casting, miss time casting etc. So i’m here to guide you all how to use Lion properly.

II. Hero Stats And Skill

Lion – The Demon Witch
Range: 600 | | Move Speed: 290 | Primary: INT
Str: 16 + 1.7 | Agi: 15 + 1.5 | Int: 22 + 3
Damage: 42 – 48 | HP: 454 | Mana: 286
HP Regen: 0.73 | Mana Regen: 0.89
Attack Speed: 1.45 (+ 15% IAS) | Armor: 1.1
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Voodoo (D)
Transforms an enemy unit into a random critter, disabling special abilities.
Level 1 – Lasts 1 seconds.
Level 2 – Lasts 2 seconds.
Level 3 – Lasts 3 seconds.
Level 4 – Lasts 4 seconds.
Mana Cost: 110 / 140 / 170 / 200
Cooldown: 13
Impale (E)
Slams the ground with massive claws, shooting spiked tendrils out in a straight line, dealing damage and hurling enemy ground units into the air in their wake.
Level 1 – 60 damage, .5 second stun.
Level 2 – 130 damage, 1 second stun.
Level 3 – 200 damage, 1.5 second stun.
Level 4 – 260 damage, 2 second stun.
Mana Cost: 100 / 120 / 145 / 170
Cooldown: 12
Mana Drain (R)
Absorbs the magical energies of a target enemy unit by taking mana from it every second. Channeling Spell
Lasts 4 seconds.
Level 1 – 20 mana drained per second. 600 Cast Range.
Level 2 – 40 mana drained per second. 650 Cast Range.
Level 3 – 60 mana drained per second. 700 Cast Range.
Level 4 – 100 mana drained per second. 750 Cast Range.
Mana Cost: 10
Cooldown: 25/20/15/10
Finger of Death (F)
Instantly rips at a target, attempting to turn it inside-out. Deals massive damage.
Level 1 – Deals 500 (600 with Scepter) damage.
Level 2 – Deals 650 (800 with Scepter) damage.
Level 3 – Deals 850 (1025 with Scepter) damage.
Scepter reduces cooldown of level 3 Finger of Death by 5 seconds.
Mana Cost: 200 / 420 / 650
Cooldown: 150 / 90 / 55

III. Skill Build

1,3,5,7 : Impale

2,4,13,14 : Mana Drain

8,9,10,12 : Hex

The Rest : Stats

Finger Of Death : 6,11,16

Q : Why did we put 2 skill point on mana drain?

A : Because we need lane controlling in early game. Mana drain work well with impale, when you stun it, then when enemy moving in the air, use mana drain. Your enemy will not have mana to spam and harass you, hence they will out of farm and being pushed.

Hex taken in lvl 8 because we need one more disable thing, even though mana cost was ridiculous, don’t hesitate to take it, it will save your life sometimes even just 1 seconds.

IV. Strategy And Tactics

Start item with 2 gauntlets of ogre or mantle of intelligence with 2 sets tango. it will provide you more life time until lvl 6 or more. Since lion is fragile, so we don’t need to rush an early kill. Do this way

1. Impale then when your enemy stunned in the air, use mana drain. With this way, you prevent of being harassed and can harass with impale more.

2. Don’t cast impale on hero but cast impale on the ground. Like this

and this. So we should know how far can impale goes. Once you mastered it, you can use trick impale + drain easily.

This is the example of using mana drain while your enemy flying in the air.

So in lvl 1 – 7, i hope you get this item. This will help you find a better way in mid game.

BracerNull TalismanBoots of SpeedVoid Stone or BracerBracerBoots of Speed Void Stone

We want to rush guinsoo as fast as we want, so i suggest to buy the expensive one first, Mystic Staff. I know that’s hard, sometimes i want to buy Ultimate Orb first, but it’s not a good choice. Because lion only effective in early to mid game, when enemy’s health rather low. So we can finger them, or just do impale finger combo then kill, get money while in late game when you want to get Mystic, it’s so hard because you don’t have proper item to farm faster. It will getting worst if you’re being pushed so you can’t go too far from base. Getting mystic should be around lvl 12-13. Another item that you should consider is Eul. If you think that guinsoo is too far, Eul can be the second build. But it’s less effective than guinsoo. So in mid game, getting Mystic staff is a must.

BracerNull TalismanBoots of SpeedVoid StoneMystic Staff

Then near level 16, you can get Ultimate Orb easier with your power farming. Last hit also easier now because you have high damage. It’s not too expensive, well, even though it’s just 600 gold cheaper than Mystic. Getting guinsoo will make a game unstable for enemy. You can control up to 3 heroes. In my experience, guinsoo is the expensive item i can get, but if the game last longer, get Orchid. This will make you a fully support and battle lion. Amplify damage with finger of death. A massive damage.

Orchid MalevolenceGuinsoo`s Scythe of VyseBracerBoots of SpeedNull Talisman

V. Best Allies And Worst Enemy

Worst :

Lucifer - The Doom BringerBalanar - The Night StalkerEzalor - The Keeper of the Light

Once doomed, just say goodbye. Balanar in early game will make a little headache. Mana leak will make your mana collapsed.

Bone Clinkz - The Bone FletcherRikimaru - The Stealth AssassinGondar - The Bounty HunterAnub`seran - The Nerubian Weaver

Also some windwalkers hero. Your fragile hp would be their favorite object.

Best :

Crixalis - The Sand KingAnub`arak - The Nerubian AssassinSlardar - The Slithereen GuardDarchrow - The EnigmaRaigor Stonehoof - The EarthshakerMagnus - The Magnataur

AoE stuner that will make your impale hit more than 1 enemy.

VI. Conclusion

-Better get Guinsoo before your enemy get BKB. When it happens, then you’ll lose.

-Finish the game asap. Intel hero can’t play too long.

-Item build can be your choice to buy other item. Orchid is the most late item that i can get in most game.

Note : Will add more screenshot later + replay.

43 responses

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  2. Saffry

    waht tiem to buy first on the start of the game

    July 28, 2008 at 5:44 am

  3. do you also play Fufu United Ninja All-Stars?

    i heard its taking over DOTA in terms of popularity

    August 6, 2008 at 4:06 am

  4. hey lets play DOTA sometime
    not on BATTLE.net but on GARENA

    August 6, 2008 at 4:07 am

  5. mother fackers

    sucks item build , the best item build is with dagon lvl 5 suckers

    August 17, 2008 at 4:19 pm

  6. btw your guide doesnt suck so hard like the other lion-guides

    the idea with manaleak is not bad, but its useful vs just a few heros (for example vs doublestun)
    i rather like skilling impale + attributes early, cause then you got enouth hp for not to feed all time, better creeping and your mana won´t go out that fast
    furthermore with your skillorder and only 2 bracers then you must have full mana to use all 3 spells, that can be very harsh sometime

    and i also dont get the point in buying orchid before BoT -.-

    the 4 invisibly heros you showed are no strong enemies for lion, as long as you are conzentrated into the game. you just have to disable them immediately after they get visible.
    i would rather say that lion is their hardest enemy cause his utly rox them even in late game.
    it is different vs nerubian assasin, who is the absolutely hardest enemy for lion. after vendetta did serious damage to you you will get stunned before you can react, and with manaburn and dagon he can kill you before you are able to move again

    and plz dont irritate the guide-readers that they have to finish a game early with lion, thats absolutely not true;
    in early game he can solokill enemies and is a great ganker, what gives you good map-control.
    in late game he rocks as well, less with his ulty but more with his hex.
    it will be a fight between the late game heros anyway, and if you disable 3 enemies at the same time (only possible with rhasta and lion having guinnso) then a fight will be one for sure

    August 18, 2008 at 8:32 am

  7. yea

    really nice gave me some good idea.. thx
    but what about refresher instead of guinso… so perserverance first and then oblivion for refresher

    December 3, 2008 at 3:04 am

    • cpZxx

      guinoso is great cc i tried this item build and its worth it..great forr ganging and 1vs1 they wont stand a chance with u,its simply hex all the way :P

      June 19, 2012 at 2:19 am

  8. PudG3

    good guide.

    December 23, 2008 at 5:13 pm

  9. please u explain how to use dota item in all of hero .
    thz u this web site

    January 14, 2009 at 11:59 am

  10. what is the best item for lion?

    January 16, 2009 at 4:57 am

  11. what are lions special combo?

    April 1, 2009 at 7:32 am

  12. rway

    best item for lion..

    blood stone,boot of travel,eye of skadi,aghanim scepter,guinsoo scythe of vyse,heart of tarrasque

    May 16, 2009 at 4:41 am

    • lance

      dont forget dagon after aghanim sceptor

      July 20, 2009 at 12:24 am

  13. abdane96

    nice guide!it really helped me!:D

    August 18, 2009 at 7:26 pm

  14. why not make Dagoon lvl 5 instead of orchid or bloodstone and what about aghanims?? so his ulti will be upgraded..But i like ur idea with impale and mana burn….then 3rd skill and dagoon lvl 5 then ulti..deadz…..But why orchid though because of the silence??

    August 21, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    • kahitano

      i agree

      February 5, 2011 at 1:03 pm

  15. I played with this item built… It is very good, much better than dagon and aghanim :D

    September 12, 2009 at 9:20 pm

  16. kei

    thx this is going to be very healpful on my coming game…

    October 28, 2009 at 10:16 am

  17. coet

    plus with aghanim scepter too.because it will support pure lion ulti.

    November 12, 2009 at 9:21 am

  18. JocaFTW'

    I like the orchid idea, sounds very resonable :|

    November 30, 2009 at 12:33 am

  19. Bash_Slash!

    My built fro lion:
    INITIALLY
    —2 Mantle of Intelligence
    —1 Circle of Nobility
    —1 Tango

    After earning some bucks:
    —Buy Boots of Speed
    —Buy Ring of Health(Mana could be compensated by Mana Drain)
    —Buy Void Stone
    Complete Preservance

    Later on:
    —Buy Point booster
    —Buy Staff of Wizardry
    —Buy Ogre Axe
    Complete Aghnim Scepter

    If they let me farm properly and steal some kills :) then:
    —Buy Mystic Staff
    —Buy Ultimate Orb
    —Buy Void Stone
    Complete Guinsoo

    If game is still alive then for final touch and finishing:
    —Buy Staff of Wizardry
    —Buy Blades of Attack
    Complete Daigon
    (Improve it if we don’t get screwed :)

    December 16, 2009 at 11:00 am

  20. wow thats good you know ^^

    January 13, 2010 at 3:04 am

  21. Bash_Slash!

    Refresher is not the item for Lion as Refresher is most suited for the heroes with AOE damage ultis(rhasta,shaker,worlock,yernero etc).Lion would only ulti double which is not a big deal.Also going for refresher would ruin your other item bhild.So dont agree with refresher.

    February 6, 2010 at 10:19 pm

  22. Joshua

    come on man ! why would you use a bracer on lion ? isn’t his attribute is intelligence ? you should buy the null talisman coz’ it gives +3 int which is better

    April 29, 2010 at 12:54 pm

  23. If you know how to utilize this guy properly, you wouldn’t even bother getting Dagon or Refresher.

    June 24, 2010 at 10:54 pm

  24. I love demon witch

    July 4, 2010 at 12:33 am

  25. why not bottle?

    October 18, 2010 at 10:27 am

  26. just buy 1st threads and DAGON

    January 15, 2011 at 4:22 am

  27. tae ANo ba ang mga buo ni demon witch si lion

    January 22, 2011 at 11:24 am

  28. kahitano

    lets not forget about dagon

    February 5, 2011 at 1:02 pm

  29. RENREN

    MY favorite hero is Lion!!!!!!1 thanks for your guide

    February 13, 2011 at 2:46 am

  30. Cleon Valle

    Dude what build in 5v5

    March 2, 2011 at 9:04 am

  31. ewean

    March 2, 2011 at 5:47 pm

  32. so……………. strong intelligence hero……………

    …………….. reylucio 4 ever

    April 14, 2011 at 1:56 pm

  33. deathangelhj

    just PAWNED shadow shaman in a 1 v 1 fight..my build
    refresher,aegham,guinsoo,heart,deso,BoT
    just do a few hits to him after 2 vodoo, impale, 2 ulti (Finger Of Death..2050 dmg)….

    LUVD IT!!!!…any better build against shadow??
    ??????

    June 7, 2011 at 3:34 pm

  34. romuath

    whatever

    July 22, 2011 at 9:14 am

  35. lion type int gitu jgn ditiru lama2 kk jelek itu klo lwn bala atw hero terobos pasti mati itu lionnya mendingan naekin impale ma status buat nambah darah trus finger masalah voodo sama mana drain di naekin pas status warna item trus bkin ekuip type batle yg biasa agi pake maen aspd lebih baik menurut gw daripada gk ada aspd susah

    September 1, 2011 at 4:49 am

  36. gw kasih tips buat maenin hero raigor awl2 naekin skill 2 sama 3 biar mana gk bocor abis itu lvl 5 naekin stun 1 buat jaga2 stunya 1 aja sampe skill 2 3 nya pool trus bkin bf 3 biji biar bisa kill bnyak sama gampang creeping maen gituan mah gk usa andelin bnyak mana

    September 1, 2011 at 5:50 am

  37. lol….lion will have no problems murdering invi heroes…..once they ambush lion,hehe……hex them,stun them,ulti,shivas,refresher orb…..and use all the skills once againg…hehe that particular hero would be raped by the time u finish your skills. Ya,i know that riki is tough for lion because of his smoke screen,but once lion gets out,riki’s toasted!

    January 25, 2012 at 3:49 am

  38. Grim Reaper

    Lion is a cool hero. The best disabler, who can be effective in early , mid and late game. He can also get stronger easily, despite its fragileness. Also include necronomicon to his build. disable, use necromonicon, attack, disable again, mana burn using a necro, attack, then use ulti. This has a higher damage than dagon itself

    January 26, 2012 at 12:16 pm

  39. Kahovi

    Septr, dagon lvl 5, power thread, linkin, hex and bloodstone dats my item n it rocks

    February 3, 2012 at 5:08 am

  40. nice guide on how to do the better impale.. to be honest, I had a mistake for it.. I practice like the same as what you have posted, and it works. *highfive* for the items, which of it is really better, the power treads or the phase boots? or rather BoT, but it’s a bit advanced and it’s not useful if it’s BoT in early game even you reached level 16-20 or near level from that… :) btw, nice guide.

    April 3, 2012 at 4:36 pm

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